We were celebrating the 30th Anniversary of Bil Herd’s masterpiece, the Commodore 128 at CommVEx 2015 in Las Vegas this year. Bil Herd showed some slides of awesome hardware that was never released by Commodore. Then Bil Herd and Leonard Tramiel answered all of our retro questions. We learned that Commodore founder Jack Tramiel actually walked away from Commodore during CES in 1984, not a few months later as was always believed. The disagreement with main Commodore investor Irving Gould that caused his exit was also revealed. Leonard Tramiel explained that his father was angry that Gould was using Commodore funds as his personal piggy bank.